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( Taken from a posting of mine to a newsgroup that banned me for reasoning weith them scientifically about the Lord )

If allowed to agree and disagree with you and your faith, A***** can I say I do have a tremendous amount of FAITH in
good old God given common sense, even though common sense seems rather uncommon these days. For as the scriptures of
science have stated, some have eyes to see and yet can't see, ears to hear and yet do not hear, and most of us use a whole lot
less than 10 percent of our God given brains (Ezekiel 12: 2)

 Because personnally I am not much of a seer, prophet or dreamer at all. Ha, this I leave to my much more spiritual wife
and lover. I love common sense, and logic and reason, science and MATH. I love the way the Lord's numbers mess in the
real world of physics and biology. I love confirmations and knowing when searching that real answers and laws must lie
beneath the surface if we just commit ourselves to using our brains. And that doesn't mean to me in hoping beyond hope
that what didn't work in the past will someday in the future magically 'save' us. And I don't think materialistic closed
minded false science can rescue mankind, with their latest new toys and inventions. So that is not where my faith lies.

 My greatest mental hero was and is Einstein, for he said that he wanted to prove there was a God, and literally and
mathematically did. God bless his soul. (SEE  
Einstein, Creation and the Creator) This is why even though Einstein made
some tragic mistakes in thinking his help on the atomic bomb would help mankind, he was in other areas a great
humanitarian. And he loved thinking and solving mysteries, which is why I used his words on my homepage... As Einstein
said, "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious." SEE
Einstein finds God

 For solving mysteries is what we are here to do, as even my MAIN hero also said. he saying, we have to seek to find, we
have to use our God given brains. For his first commandment which few ever listen to is.... .
Mathew 22:37 Jesus said unto
him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy MIND.

 Why because people as you said A***** get into dam blind FAITH without using common sense and their MIND. Logic
and reason is from the Creator and is not in my opinion a new high tech invention of modern man. It has always been
around and accessable to any that have just stopped long enough to think rationally. The Lord is absolutely opposed to
mindless actions without regards to consequences. For true science is always about cause and effects. It is the Law of
which we should all be concerned about in our daily scientific actions. Right ?

 Morality in essense is simple science, and simple logic and reason, ... an application of the mind.

 For Yes, A****** I agree closed minded religionists (and can I add closed minded scientists and polticians and capitalists)
are very dangerous and are giving us 'hell on Earth.' For it doesn't take dreams and revelations to understand what is going on
in current events. You simply need a computer and a few hyperlinks like http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ and you
can make up your MIND, about what is really happenning in the world .... that covers up truths. We don't have to get in so
called deep prayer and moan and groan and prostrate ourselves when answers can come from just using our God given
common sense and a little application of concentration and discernment. We should not be groupies following gurus, and
politicians and mad scientists down the road to destruction, but think for ourselves. Lets use our brains as the Lord said .....

Isa 1:18 Come now, and let us REASON together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as
snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

 If we just open our eyes to what is really happenning, decipher the numbers, and figure out who and what can really save
us and where the real power for rescue comes from. Mind you, this will also surely mean, that we will have to ADD a
WHOLE lot of HEART to the equation. Heart and Soul and Mind can ADD up to ONE, the One and Only ONE.

 In My Opinion